One more try with AA. Swing and a miss

 I was looking for something in the way of fellowship for addiction recovery. I tried one of the Buddhist approaches and one of the secular approaches, but both fizzled out. I tried AA again, seeing if maybe that would work if I found the right group. I thought I did, right in my own neighborhood even. Things went well enough I declared it my home group and signed up to do coffee and setup.  A different person picks the speakers each month and unfortunately for me, my last month in this group was ledd by an AA Christian fundmentalist.  Here is my account of what happened in the form of the email I sent the group when I left. 

Hi all, just one last thing...Sorry it is a little long. You all never heard my story, so consider this that, and humor me by hearing me out if you wish.

I spoke with a few of you about leaving last night and I want to be clear so there is no misunderstanding...I’m not leaving because of the speaker, or even the Course of Miracles stuff about angels and whatever. And though I give both of those beliefs a wide berth, I have no problem with other people’s beliefs. My reason for leaving comes from the last speaker of the evening and the truth of what he said.

He said that agnostics like me maybe don’t drink but aren’t in recovery like “we” are by which he meant proper, god-fearing AA, which he called “the Truth” in affirmation of the speakers who preached Christianity prior to him that evening. OK, actually still no problem there, even when he wrapped up that little ball of intolerance and disingenuously labeled it “love.” Sorry dude, not feeling the love over here, but ok, principles before personalities. He also gave all of us, but especially me, since I was the person who identified as agnostic (I am pretty sure he has no idea what that word means), an assignment to read the chapter on the agnostic from the big book. So I re-read the chapter for the Nth time, and it is still an argument of the same type and thinking as that of the birther movement or Creationism, both of which I reject. Still no problem. Take what you want and leave the rest. OK, so let’s see what the google-god tells us about what the agnostics are up to in AA and what AA thinks of them.

It turns out that AA officially accepts agnostics and special interest meetings for agnostics, atheists and so forth (see the Oct. 2016 Grapevine for a whole issue on this). Cool, I’m in. Now where are those meetings? Pull up an Oahu schedule, and there you go, and right there at the top it is, an AG/AT symbol to mark the meetings where we are actually welcome, as opposed to the others, where I guess we are still not welcome. Well ok, ctrl-F, lets find all the AG/AT meetings. Zero. People like me are not welcome at any meetings on the Oahu schedule. OK, if I had infinite time and energy, I could go on a crusade and start one. Maybe I’m just copping out.

But here is the rub. AA has also declared that not a word of the first part of the big book can be changed, so that means that the chapter to the agnostic is considered divinely inspired and infallible in practice, which is what it means that AA declares as Gospel Truth a text written by a bunch of newly sober drunks flying blind in 1938 except for the guidance of a book on religion by William James and a Christian group called the Oxford Group (read Pass it on). The chapter on the agnostic does pretty much say I don’t have real recovery until I have a personal deity.

This, and the comically sexist chapters on “Wives” (stand by your Man) and employers (give Him some slack) are officially considered by AA infallible and unchangeable. It is a baked in principle and actually a dogma that my recovery is "less than," which is odd for a book that closes with the statement that it is “merely suggestive. We know only a little.” So it is a bedrock principle of the book, and the book is considered unchangeable truth, and it says I’m a second class citizen unless I have found God as We – not I – understand Him.

This is fundamentalism, which allows people to cherry pick from a text, do whatever hateful thing they want and call it love and God’s Will and “the Truth,” which is exactly what the last speaker did. And he was right to do so by the AA principle that the Big Book is a an unchanging, infallible, fundamentalist text.

I have severe PTSD from fundamentalists (who come in every shape from followers of some brands of Jesus to New Age stuff to the Course of Miracles stuff artfully spouted at Tuesday’s meeting). It has put me out of work for over a year two times in sobriety, caused two trips to mental hospitals, and one for a residential treatment center for PTSD and addictions where they were amazed that I did not pick up after the stuff I have been through sober.  And, get this! Since meetings were triggering my PTSD, a rehab after verifying that I had no plans of picking up a drink or a drug, actually recommended I stop going to meetings! LOL, I still wonder how many times that has ever happened. Mind you, I had sixteen years under my belt at that time, and I wouldn’t actually take the advice for another year, being a stubborn alcoholic. Now like anyone, I may pick up a drink tonight or get struck with the drunken lightning for not going to meetings, but I’ll try not to do that today, since every good thing in my life depends on staying clean and sober and picking up would do absolutely nothing to make anything better, no matter how bad things seem. If you want to know how to get through a hard day without picking up a drink I can tell you a few things about it. Despite these challenges, I have carved out a good life, one that was beyond my wildest dreams when I came into the rooms.

I have PTSD from people in the program doing abominable things to me and calling it love and God’s will, because they had a personal God and they like to think everything happens according to His plan, so whatever hateful shit they spout and do is actually God’s Will, part of the Plan, and if you don’t get it, it must be because you are not special and chosen, poor soul. Because of how I was raised, in a generations’ deep swamp of alcoholic dysfunction, it has taken me years to figure out that this was their problems that they were dumping me with, not some flaw in me. And certain types of alcoholics from therapists to car salesmen to lovers to predators to sociopaths (not kidding) and to my family of birth look at me and, probably unconsciously except for a sociopath or two that has found me, see an awesome target for some reason I am still working on figuring out and that I am getting much better at avoiding.

So let me sum up here. AA endorses its own peculiar brand of fundamentalism. Some fundamentalists take shit that and run with it. Fundamentalists like this have caused tremendous harm in my life and I seem to have some kind of blind spot and they seem to be able to pick me out easily. Therefore, it does more harm than good for me to continue in AA.

Please be careful to note, I am not saying that everyone in AA or even AA as a whole, is fundamentalist. Only that it endorses its own peculiar brand of fundamentalism that is available to people who, like the last speaker, do take that and run with it. To me there is little in the world more dangerous than an alcoholic who is not drinking, has his or her wits about them, and Knows The Truth for sure. I saw this in the previous week’s meeting and its homogeneously uniformed and disciplined AA team following a charismatic leader, but I set it aside in the name of tolerance. This last meeting was not my cup of tea, but as I shared at that meeting, I actually think it is great that everyone from a follower of Jesus to someone like me who does not have the dubious luxury of such certainty, can all figure out a way to get sober together, which none of us could do on our own. I did have a major problem with the last speaker’s statement that without a personal deity you are not really sober, but I can do principles over personalities. The problem is that when I explored the principles, that brand of exclusive, intolerant faith is not only encouraged, but considered infallible. At that point, I’m done, and I have a better understanding of why I seem to run into so many people who see me as target practice rather than a fellow human.  I'm actually grateful for that last bit, as I understand it a little better now.

I have not met anyone in the group who has been anything other than lovely to me in my short time with the group. I seriously mean that. I think the last guy was a hateful ass, but I didn’t even see who it was. You’ll have that all over the world, not just in AA, so whatever, it is not really more than a passing bit of anger of the everyday sort one has to work through wherever they are anyway.

The principle is the problem. I am not up to fighting against it, and there are other things I can do in my life to be there for the still suffering alcoholic than try to make AA into my image of it. I found this out in my seventeen years away from AA but not recovery: there are plenty of people like me. I am one of the fortunate ones, who like you has been able to get in recovery and build a good life which completely depends on that recovery. Plenty of others – I think one in ten actually sticks around in AA and achieves sobriety that way – still struggle and many of them feel excluded for reasons similar to mine for leaving. Through the gift of anonymity, I have corresponded literally with hundreds of them with lots more behind each person I have been fortunate enough to talk to. They make me understand that I am not alone and that my recovery is just fine, and I am grateful for that, and them, and you all, and fortunate every day. Recovery, I have found out, is not a monopoly enterprise. We do “know only a little,” so it makes no sense to me to declare a solution with a ten-percent success rate to be infallible dogma. Especially when it does tremendous harm in my life and others. But AA does exactly that. That’s why I am leaving. But I am glad it works for you.  

So you guys never heard my story but there is a little of it. Anyway, like I said, I live in the neighborhood, so if you see me at the ABC store say hi please, and if a green Subaru sedan honks at you as I drive around the block to my place, it means, “Hi,” Not “get out of the road and quit smoking ya bums. What the hell kind of church is that anyway.” 

toxic relationships

Well, this started as a response to a bunch of comments but turned int my first post in a while, so thanks to the anonymous poster who made the comments referenced below.

anonymous said:

My story was a string of "moderately traumatic" events that left me feeling constantly on edge, ready for betrayal or chaos at any moment, completely in physical and emotional pain for years.

Yes, I know that feeling well, that there is no safe place, the world might give way under foot at any moment. Finding ways of being and places, even imaginary ones, that are safe has been a big part of recovery for me. EMDR, which I have been thinking of writing a post on for a very long time but haven't gotten around to it, was helpful in doing this. I started out with an imaginary safe place, but also learned to trust that loving and supportive network of friends, which has been a challenge, but also tremendously rewarding as far as recovering goes.

anonymous wrote:
The supportive, loving people I have new relationships with don't deserve to deal with my insecurities from the manipulative, destructive people in my toxic past.

I think awareness is a crucial first step. All the toxic people who were in my life surely had their own unaddressed trauma issues, I know this for a fact. I think perpetrators of abuse are traumatized people who feel entitled to take out revenge for their trauma on the world around them. Its their way of dealing with it, but it creates more trauma, passing it along to new people. Most traumatized people won't turn into abusers, but I bet 99.9% of perpetrators come from traumatized backgrounds. Its important to reiterate that this is not a fait accompli.

It is a slippery and seductive slope though. Most traumatized people hold it in til it blows up, which I did, or find constructive ways of dealing with it, which is what I try to do now. But when things blew up, I hurt those around me, the closer and more supportive they were, the more so. I realized this and it was a major incentive to get better so that I would not continue to have the stuff come out sideways and hurt the ones I love and who love me. I can see though, that had I just felt entitled to what I was doing rather than being appalled at it, it would then be but a short drive to perp-dom. So I have understanding, but no tolerance or forgiveness for abusers.

I am grateful for being able to break the cycle in my own life but it has come at great cost. My tendency was to buy into the perpetrator's version of the story and see myself as defective or the source of whatever problems they blamed on me. I promised myself when I was a little kid that I would not do to my kids what was done to me. My latest greatest abuser played into all my fears and insecurities (and ignorance about boundaries!) and after I got totally screwed over, the person convinced me that I was the abusive one (I hesitate to even write this for fear that whoever reads it will side with my abuser too!) by invoking what I had recognized as lies a previous toxic person had accused me of.

The latest, greatest one knew my feelings and insecurities about this because I told her all about them. Rather than realizing "wow, what a sick person, trying to justify her abusive behavior by flinging that stuff at me," I thought "well that's twice in a row...maybe I'm as blind as my parents were to their abusive behavior and just cannot see it." As a result, I decided not to have kids, because I took my childhood promise to myself seriously, and until I could see how it was I was being abusive I would do what it took to make sure I didn't pass it on.

This was my backwards sense of boundaries, where I thought they were to keep me walled off from doing harm from others rather than to protect myself from toxic abusive people. Years later, the person admitted I had not been anything close to abusive and that she made it up to justify her actions, but by then it was too late to start a family and the harm had been done. Because a life of traumatic relationships with everyone from parents to siblings to strangers to lovers, my belief in myself and my own feelings was nil. This is perhaps the greatest thing I have recovered in getting better from PTSD, my trust in myself as a basically good human being. I had to learn what most people learn as children, how to tell what's mine from what's not, and that has made all the difference.

More on Type A & B addicts, 12 steps, and trauma

This was originally a response to some comments to "ptsd, AA, and different types of addicts" that grew too long, so it became a post. If you're curious, or want to try and convince me that my experience is wrong ;^), you can read more about my thoughts on PTSD and 12-step programs, the Christian basis of AA's "spirituality", and why I finally decided, after 17 years, to leave 12 step approaches, a difficult decision.

anonymous at 9:17 pm said:

I believe that AA can help anyone to sobriety and a life worth living.

Oh dear, the type A AAs have found us :)

...There ARE AA members experienced with PTSD. Value your own recovery enough to seek them out.

Indeed, during the seventeen years I attended AA I did find some people who knew personally what PTSD was and they were a tremendous help. I also met a lot of crazy people who thought because their way of doing things wasn't working for me that I was doing something wrong...kind of like you are here.

If it were easy, EVERYONE would be sober and sane.

a little condescension to help you endear yourself to us struggling misguided fools who don't do things your way....

... But sobriety and life are worth the effort. ...Find the people in AA who relate to who you are and where you've been. They are there.

Translation for type Bs: You are doing it wrong if you are not doing it my (anonymous's) way -- oops, I mean, the AA way, and you're not sober or sane unless you go through AA. Thanks, but no thanks. Been there done that. That is what the post explains if you could see through the haze a bit. If you go by the slogans, I might suggest "live and let live" to the anonymous poster here...Things only got saner and better for me after I left AA. That seems to be threatening somehow, and of course the type A response is that I didn't do it right. Well excuse my French, but fuck that. I've now been sober over 22 years, the last five without AA. I got a lot out of AA and gave a lot back, but it became more harm than help, to the point that my worst days sober were as bad or worse than the low points of my addiction, which included homelessness, hallucinations, lot's of "lucky to have lived through that"s, and lots of drug induced emotional and physical injury, so I left. Mind you, I wouldn't trade those awfullest sober days in for the druggy ones -- I learned a lot of hard-bought things about people and --I can't think of anything else to call it...sickness just doesn't capture the true extent -- evil from the hard times of my sobriety.

If I remember right, and I do, the definition of insanity I learned in AA was "to keep repeating the same things over and expect different results." Working things through the aa way became exactly this form of insanity. At a certain point the aa way...steps, spirituality, constant meetings, the whole thing that I was doing with the best of them...just wasn't working, again and again, no matter how hard I tried or how close I hewed to the big book and the rooms.

Maybe I'll drink tomorrow. I saw plenty of twenty and thirty year AA-ers go out and drink too. I plan on staying clean and sober, as I value the life it has granted me immensely now that I have been able to stay clear of the craziness and harm I encountered in AA. If it works for you, well bless you, go forth....I probably would have sided with you the first 5, 10, or 15 years I was sober. I was wrong, and I humbly submit that you are too if you think AA is a one stop shop with the answers for everyone's recovery. Open yer mind a little, please.

the next anonymous said:

But to say that the person with PTSD is .."almost exclusively harming themselves..." is denial at its greatest. It takes courage to ask for help.

Just for clarity sake, that quote within the quote is from another commentator, not something I said, though I said something similar. I agree with the wife of the PTSD sufferer, and I am sure my own partner would too, as she endured a lot of agony in supporting me through the worst of my PTSD. I am forever grateful for that...It has taught me what love really is in many ways, so if you are truly supporting the recovery -- and recovery can happen -- of a PTSD-er, well then props to you! Its a huge task and takes a lot of love and understanding.

I was referring, and I think the commentator was too, to the sort of perverse tendency Type Bs have of trying to make amends to their perpetrators. In my case that included members of my family. They are the ones who are in denial, not me. And to live as they would have me would kill me, quite literally, and they would rather see that than see what they did. I just stay far away now, which is sad, but I have developed a wonderful family of choice and made a life for myself with room for all of who I am.

When I was in the worst stages of my addiction, and my recovery, I isolated like the commentator, and any pain I caused my perpetrators was probably from pangs of guilt more than anything else. I managed to keep everyone else away from me. I didn't have anyone because I didn't think I was worth anything to anyone, and created a self-fulfilling prophecy. When I stopped drinking and drugging, this left me real vulnerable to a particular type of misanthropic, often charlatan, type of person who can be found in or around any AA anywhere (I had home groups in four different cities over the years). Mind you, I'm not saying all AA is like that, just that all AA attracts such people, and they prey on people like I was. I've seen it many times and experienced it more than once before I wised up. These types took some people's lives to get what they wanted and almost got mine. Maybe someday I'll tell that story here, but I try to keep things general so more people can relate and also so as to remain anonymous myself.

Anyway, there was no wife or partner or significant other in my addiction because I thought I was too fucked up to be with anyone -- and I mostly was. Type Bs tend to blame themselves and take on the violence and anger of others as their own. This has ...ummm....negative effects on one's social skills and attractiveness to others. This is what I had to learn to reject and get angry at in order to get better, that the guilt and shame I felt were not mine, but belonged to others, and I would imagine that the commentator was trying to express something similar. I am sure if he or she had people in his or her life, they were affected as you say, but some of us clear everyone out for their own good to protect them from what awful people we have been taught by our perpetrators to believe that we are. Realizing that was a lie, and dumping the evil others had dumped on me in a safe and non-abusive way were key to getting to a place where I could let people in and have real relationships. I could have gone to AA for eternity and I would never have learned what I needed there.